Sunday, January 10, 2016

"Trump Talk" About "Cruz Talk" About Natural Born Citizen


"Trump Talk" About "Cruz Talk" About Natural Born Citizen


Here's a short 7 minute transcript (23min. 50sec. to 30min. 50sec) of Donald Trump's speech (an excellent example of energetic "Trump Talk") at his campaign rally in Clear Lake, Iowa on January 9, 2016, in which Trump challenges Sen. Cruz to get a declaratory judgment in court to clarify his eligibility to be POTUS because he was not born "in the land" as he, Trump, had always understood natural born citizen to mean and to require for eligibility to be president.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Qkvck7u90

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@23min 50sec to 28min – 4m 10s

"Here's one [a poll] in South Carolina, CBS, Trump 38, Cruz is second at 23. You know what that is. I mean that's a massive difference. So, we're doing good and we're going to do good here too. We're going to win and we're going to come in first place.

"But, let me tell you, Ted. So Ted's a nice guy, and I like him, and he likes me. A lot of other people don't like him, by the way, I must tell you that. But I like him. Why do I like him? Because he's been very nice to me. Alright?

"But, here's a problem. He's talking about natural born citizen. Right? Now, if he ever got the nomination, you know the Democrats are going to bring a major suit. He was born in Canada. Whether we like it, don't like it. He lived there. He was there. He was born in Canada. I guess his parents voted in Canada. A lot of things. I mean a lot of things happen here.

"So, you're born in Canada. It's immediately a little bit of a problem. Now, gave up, gave up his citizenship, like, what, sixteen, eighteen months ago. Joint citizenship. Did, he had a joint citizenship, right?

"But, here's the problem. Lawrence Tribe is from Harvard University Law School; very great lawyer and a constitutional expert. So, he's on television last night and he said about natural born citizen that this matter is not a settled matter. It is wrong to say, this is an exact quote, '[It is wrong to say] it is a settled matter because it is not.'

"Now, just so you understand, that means there's a question. It's not a settled matter. He was born in Canada. And, I say to Ted. And as a Republican I say it 'cause I think it's very important. You gotta get it straightened out.

"Now, you can go for what's called a declaratory judgment, where you go to the courts and you say there is a problem where there is a problem of interpretation. And, you put a lot of papers in and you get a ruling from a judge because you can not put somebody there, folks, that's going to go in and he's going to be immediately sued by the Democrats because they're saying he was born in Canada, he's not allowed to run for president. And if there's that doubt, don't forget, these law suits.

"Who knows more about law suits than I do? [applause] I'm the king. I'm the king. These law suits take two, three, four years.

"So, you can't have somebody running; you cannot have somebody running and have a law suit. And people have already said they're going to bring the law suit. They say, 'if he get's the nomination we're bringing a law suit' as to natural born citizenship.

"And, honestly, I don't know, because some people say you have to be born in the land. Ok? You have to be born in the land. That's what I always thought before. You have to be born on the land. So, he was born in Canada.

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[Here are some of Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Tribe's comments from Breitbart.com]

>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/09/trump-trolls-cruz-again-cites-harvards-laurence-tribe-natural-born-citizen-matter-not-yet-settled/

"Trump was citing comments that Laurence Tribe—a high-profile liberal constitutional law professor at Harvard who taught both Cruz and President Barack Obama among other high profile figures—recently told ABC News that he does not believe the natural born citizen question is “settled law.”

'I don’t agree that it’s ‘settled law,’ ' Tribe said. 'The Supreme Court has never addressed the issue one way or the other, as I believe Ted ought to know.'

"Tribe added that he personally believes Cruz is eligible, but that doesn’t mean it’s “settled law.”

'My own view as a constitutional scholar is that the better view — the one most consistent with the entire Constitution — is the broader definition, according to which Cruz would be eligible,” Tribe said, noting that he believes that a natural born citizen should include, as ABC News wrote, “anyone who is a U.S. citizen at birth and doesn’t need to be naturalized.'
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If Prof. Tribe really thinks that the "better view" is the "broader definition" because it is "consistent" with the "entire" Constitution and so that helps Cruz's eligibility, I have some question for the law professor and others.

Professor Tribe, does the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution include ONLY Article II Section 1 clause 5?

Professor Tribe, does the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution include A2S1c5 and ALSO the Fourteenth Amendment?

Professor Tribe, does the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution include A2S1c5 (Trump), the 14th Amendment (Rubio) and ALSO statutes of Congress (Cruz)?

Professor Tribe, if the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution helps Sen. Cruz's eligibility, what is the "narrow view" of the "entire" Constitution that hurts Sen. Cruz's eligibility and whom does the "narrow view" help?

Professor Tribe, does the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution, which includes both A2S1c5 and the 14th Amendment, help not ONLY the person with two U.S. citizen parents like Donald Trump but ALSO the person with one U.S. citizen parent like Sen. Ted Cruz and ALSO the person with zero U.S. citizen parents like Sen. Marco Rubio?

Professor Tribe, does the "narrow definition" of the "entire" Constitution, which includes ONLY A2S1c5 and the 14th Amendment, include and help the person with only two U.S. citizen parents like Donald Trump and exclude and hurt the persons with only one U.S. citizen parent like Sen. Cruz and also exclude and hurt persons with zero U.S. citizen parents like Sen. Rubio?

Finally, why do the Professor and others NOT say that the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution helps Donald Trump?

Could it be that the "narrow definition" of the "entire" Constitution is sufficient because the "narrow definition" includes ONLY Article II Section 1 clause 5 because Donald Trump's father was born on U.S. soil and his mother, born on foreign soil, naturalized BEFORE Trump was born on U.S. soil?

These should be very easy questions for Professor Lawrence Tribe and Professor Robert Natelson and Professor William Jacobson and Jack Maskell and Andrew McCarthy and Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin to answer.

Right?

The "narrow definition" means that Donald Trump needs ONLY Article II Section 1 clause 5 for POTUS eligibility and he does NOT need the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution, A2S1c5 AND the 14th Amendment, and he ALSO does NOT need statutes of Congress (1952 Immigration and Nationality Act), because the A2S1c5 "narrow definition" of ONLY singular U.S. citizenship ONLY by birth on U.S. soil ONLY to two U.S. citizen married parents is sufficient.

Does Prof. Tribe understand that ONLY singular U.S. citizenship is what John Jay meant when he underlined the word "born" in "natural born Citizen" in his note to George Washington, and which Washington passed on to the framers in 1787? Born means "born" with ONLY singular U.S. citizenship.

THAT is why a "natural born Citizen" does NOT need to renounce foreign citizenship before running for president.

Not needing to renounce foreign citizenship is why Donald Trump and most of the other Republican candidates are eligible to the office of President and why Sen. Cruz is not.

PS. Dr. Carson's father was married to another woman when he married his mother before Dr. Carson's birth, so Dr. Carson may not be eligible. As a Christian woman, a Seventh-day Adventist, she could not stay "married" to his father. Both Sen. Cruz's eligibility and Dr. Carson's eligibility are "not settled" as Prof. Tribe might say.

Unless, of course, Dr. Carson takes the biblical "broad way" that leads to destruction by accepting Prof. Tribes unsettled "theory" that the "better view" is the "broader definition" of the "entire" Constitution, a "better view" which incorporates the "narrow definition" of the 1868 Fourteenth Amendment and, since the 1790 Naturalization Act was repealed five years later with the 1795 Naturalization Act, a "better view" which incorporates the "broader definition" of the 1952 Immigration and Naturalization Act, a statute of Congress, into the "narrow definition" of the 1787 Article II Section 1 clause 5 language.

One wonders what John Jay and George Washington and the 1787 framers of the language of A2S1c5 would think and say about Prof. Tribes "better view" and the "broader definition" that is "consistent" with the "entire" Constitution concerning being "...eligible to the Office of President?"

By implication, the "better view" of a "broader definition" is so "broad" that Prof. Tribe's "unsettled" theory of his "definition" allows for including statutes of Congress from 1790 to 2016 to help Sen. Cruz's eligibility: “Tribe said, noting that he believes that a natural born citizen should include 'anyone who is a U.S. citizen at birth [14th Amendment and statutes] and doesn’t need to be naturalized.'

And by extended implication, Prof. Tribe's "broader definition" "should include" Sen. Marco Rubio, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Gov. Nikki Haley and other Fourteenth Amendment anchor babies since the 1898 United States v. Wong Kim Ark erroneous decision has come to be construed to imply that even a child born on U.S. soil to foreign legal residents is not only a U.S. "citizen" but should also be called a "natural born Citizen" and "...eligible to the Office of President."

And to extend the implication even further, if Prof. Tribes "unsettled" theory of a "broader definition" is not rebutted and refuted with an Article V convention of states to propose an amendment to clarify that the 1868 original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment did NOT include for POTUS eligibility the children born to one (Cruz) or zero (Rubio) U.S. citizen parents.

If the Fourteenth Amendment is not clarified, the Fourteenth Amendment "citizen" will eventually be construed to apply to even Muslim jihadi anchor babies of legal aliens AND illegal aliens so that it will be said that "natural born Citizen "should include" even anchor babies with zero U.S. citizen parents and it will be proposed, based on Prof. Tribe's "unsettled" "borader definition" theory that even anchor babies of illegal aliens wil be said to be "...eligible to the Office of President."

That's nuts, right?

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[Trump Talk continues here]


"Now, John McCain, he had the same problem. The difference is his two parents were both in the military. They were both in the military, and he was born in a military base. Ok. I understand that. I mean, it's a military base. What are you going to do, say, you know, mom and dad, you should have taken me back home to be born. I can't run for president. He was born in a military base, and I understand that. And, by the way, Laurence Tribe represented John McCain on that, and he said he [Tribe] was troubled by it. They won, but he was always troubled by it. It bothered him, but he also understood it. But, with Cruz, he said, it's a problem.

"Now, if it's a problem, they gotta work it out because you can't give somebody a nomination—I think we're going to win, just so you understand. I don't want to be like a negative person, and I don't want to win this way. I don't want to win this way. I want to win fair and square. And, based on all the polls, it looks like I'm doing awfully well. 

"But, you can't have a person running for office—even though Ted is very glib and he goes out and he says, well, I'm a natural born citizen. The prob..., the point is, you're not. You gotta get a declaratory judgment. You have to have the courts come up with a ruling or you have a candidate who just cannot run. Because, the other side will immediately bring suit and you've got that cloud on your head. And, you can't have that cloud on your head.

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[At this point the energetic "Trump Talk" about Sen. Cruz's eligibility transitions to energetic "Trump Talk" about winning where and how the other candidates don't have a chance, like New York because of upstate New York, and with 20% of Democrats in addition to the remnant Reagan Democrats.

I included the "winning" political talk below to show how Trump makes news and headlines. He spent only four minutes on "natural born Citizen" and the internet is going crazy, for and against Trump. Mark Levin just can't get any rest from what he calls "chasing shiny objects" and the "birther" talk.]
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"You know, the Republicans have a structural disadvantage to start off with. 

"Speaking of that, I think I'm going to do great in New York, a state that they don't ever even talk about. Did you ever notice where they say, you have to win Florida. I think I will. You have to win Ohio. Now, Ohio is interesting because I do great in Ohio. I'm killing Kasich in Ohio. Everyone said, maybe you should make him your running mate and you'll win Ohio. I said, yeah, there's only one problem, I'm killing him in the polls. Right? You know, it's the same thing like in Florida where you're beating them and they say, why don't you pick one of them. So, it's interesting. Pennsylvania, we're going to do great. What they've done to the industries in Pennsylvania like the coal industry, I guarantee you, I'm going to do great in Pennsylvania.

"But I think I'm going to do great in states that are not considered in play. I think New York, you know, they came out with a poll the other day, you probably saw it, upstate New York loves Trump. And, I think I'll do well in Manhattan too. I live there. But, it's a little on the liberal side, that's ok. You know what the truth is, whether it's liberal or not liberal, whether it's Democrat or whatever, people want safety. They want our country to be great again [applause]. They want lower taxes [applause].

"So, I think that I'm going to win states that these people up there, back there with all of the cameras, they don't even talk about. I think we're going to win states that aren't even talked about. Because, the other people are not going to win any of those states. I mean, there's not a chance. You know, Ted and Marco and all these people are not going to win New York, and they're not going to have a chance of winning New York. I have a good chance of winning. They like me. I mean, sometimes they think I'm a little wild, but that's ok. But, they like me in New York. ... So, a place like New York, which isn't even thought of, hasen't been won in decades, all of a sudden they're starting to say, you know, Trump would have a chance because upstate New York ... because it is in such trouble, they think I have a good chance of winning New York. By the way, nobody else does.

"The other thing is, it just came out in one of the magazines and newspapers, that if Trump gets the nomination, they think he's going to take twenty percent of the Democrat vote. And, I think so too [applause]. Do you remember the old little group of people, they're so great, I love those people, some of them are still around, and it was called Democrats for, who, Reagan. Remember how many people voted for Ronald Reagan? We're going to have the same thing. And, they're not polling that stuff. We're going to have the same thing.

"Then, I'm going to do great with the Hispanics."

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