Thursday, October 8, 2015

Freedom from Slavery = ONLY Singular U.S. Citizenship


Singular U.S. Citizenship vs. Dual U.S./Foreign Citizenship
or
Freedom from Slavery = ONLY Singular U.S. Citizenship


This post is modified with corrections from a similar post on Mario Apuzzo's blog on March 8, 2015 at 3:20 PM.
>> http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2015/02/what-do-president-obama-and-senator.html
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Mario,

After reviewing my previous post here about the 1868 original intent of the Amendment 14 words "All persons born or naturalized...," I noticed that I had not connected the word "born" with the word "naturalized" as clearly as I should have (I wrote it quickly) to show that both words had ONLY one original intent in 1868, ONLY singular U.S. citizenship of ONLY one nation, and it does not matter to the original intent of the 1868 framers what the 1898 Supreme Court construed and held.

If Amendment 14 Section 1 and "All persons born ... subject to the [U.S.] jurisdiction are citizens ..." were defined and codified as meaning ONLY singular U.S. citizenship again as in 1868, that would mean BOTH words, "born" and "naturalized" in "All persons born or naturalized in the United States ..." would BOTH be expressing ONLY singular U.S. citizenship as was originally intended in 1868, instead of "born" having the 1898 Supreme Court meaning of ONLY dual U.S./foreign citizenship and "naturalized" having the 1868 Fourteenth Amendment meaning of ONLY singular U.S. citizenship.

As I mentioned on that previous post, I read Dr. Conspiracy's deep, deep, oh so intellectually deep, racism comment on his blog after reading your post about his connection of racism with common sense birthers who question Obama's deep, deep, oh so intellectually deep defense of his eligibility to be POTUS—I-I-I was born on U.S. soil, yes I was, and I had ONLY one U.S. citizen parent, and that's good 'nuf to be POTUS.

So, I have some simple questions (tacitly related to "proper subset") for both of the "natural born Citizen" new meaning neo-birthers and racism experts (and proper subset experts) Kevin/Masters Mathematician and Kevin/Ph.D. Mathematician:

The first sentence of Amendment 14 Section 1 has the explicit language, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States...subject to the [U.S.] jurisdiction...are citizens of...."

What did "born or naturalized" mean to the original framers?

What did "born or naturalized" mean to the original Negroes living in 1868, many of whom could not read or write, only three years after Republican President Abraham Lincoln set them free from "slavery" and "involuntary servitude" in 1865 with Amendment 13?

Did "born or naturalized" mean ONLY singular U.S. citizenship for the Amendment 14 Negroes set free in 1865 with Amendment 13?

Did "born or naturalized" mean ONLY dual U.S./foreign citizenship for the Amendment 14 Negroes set free in 1865 with Amendment 13?

Did "born or naturalized" mean BOTH 1868 singular U.S. citizenship AND 1898 dual U.S./foreign citizenship? The BOTH/AND is an easy one for the "proper subset" math experts—of course NOT both/and, 'cause that would be incoherent. Right?

Question
Did the free Negroes have ONLY singular U.S. citizenship as free "citizens" of ONLY one nation, OR did the free Negroes have, NOT BOTH singular AND dual citizenship, but ONLY dual U.S./foreign citizenship as new "citizens" of ONLY one nation?

Answer
ONLY singular U.S. citizenship as "citizens" of ONLY one nation, of course.

Question
Did the free Negroes have BOTH singular U.S. citizenship AND dual U.S./foreign citizenship as new "citizens" of ONLY one nation?

Answer
ONLY singular U.S. citizenship as new "citizens" of ONLY one nation, of course. The framers of the language of Amendment 14 were common sense thinkers, not schizophrenic and incoherent to suggest ALSO dual U.S./foreign citizenship.

Question
Do free thinkers in 2015 America, aka 1787-2015 "natural born Citizen" original meaning original intent birthers and 2008-2015 "natural born Citizen" new meaning neo-birthers, think that the free Negroes would consider themselves to be "citizens" of ONLY one nation with ONLY singular U.S. citizenship OR "citizens" of two nations with BOTH U.S./foreign citizenship?

Answer
"Citizens" of ONLY one nation, of course, with ONLY singular U.S. citizenship, of course.

The Negroes born in America AND the Negroes brought to America BEFORE 1868 could ONLY have been thought of by the Amendment 14 framers in 1868 as "citizens" of ONLY one nation with ONLY singular U.S. citizenship. Right?

It is incoherent to assert that the 1868 framers were incoherent and thinking of BOTH dual U.S./foreign citizenship for the free Negroes or for anybody. Also, the 1868 framers of Amendment 14 were definitely NOT thinking of ALSO "citizens" of two nations with dual U.S./foreign citizenship in anticipation of future anchor babies being applauded by a later Supreme Court, such as the 1898 Court decision in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, which construed the 1868 Amendment 14 language as meaning that anchor baby Wong Kim Ark was a "citizen" even though born to two non-U.S. citizen Chinese parents simply because he was "natural born" on U.S. soil.

The questions again in other words:

What did "born or naturalized" mean in 1868 to the original framers and the original Negroes who were set free three years earlier in 1865 with Amendment 13?

What did "born or naturalized" mean in 1868, ONLY singular U.S. citizenship as "citizens" of ONLY one nation, OR ALSO dual U.S./foreign citizenship of two nations?

What did "born or naturalized" mean, singular citizenship and one nation OR dual citizenship and one nation?

What did "born or naturalized" mean, singular and one OR dual and one?

THAT is the essence of the "born" new meaning neo-birther dilemma effort to be coherent in the "born or naturalized ... citizens" debate about the 1868 original intent of "born or naturalized" in Amendment 14.

Seven years later in 1875 the Supreme Court in the Minor v. Happersett decision stayed close to the 1868 original intent of ONLY singular U.S. citizenship for "born" in Amendment 14 ("naturalized" has always meant ONLY singular U.S. citizenship, including the Negroes grandfathered into citizenship in 1868), and how a different Supreme Court, twenty-three year after 1875 and thirty years after 1868, in the 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark decision became incoherent when it strayed from the original intent common sense understanding of "born" in 1868. So, of course, ONLY dual U.S./foreign citizenship without eligibility to be POTUS was the conclusion for persons born on U.S. soil to one OR zero U.S. citizen parents after the Court defined Wong Kim Ark as one of the "born ... citizens" of Amendment 14, making Wong Kim Ark an "anchor baby" with the right to vote even though he was born on U.S. soil to zero U.S. citizen parents, instead of defining him as an alien because he was born to two alien parents who could not pass on what they did not have, U.S. citizenship. That incoherent "anchor baby" decision of the 1898 Supreme Court which gave the right to vote to all "anchor babies" can be overturned by a new Court, rectifide by Congressional statute, or, for perpetual stability, by an Article V amendment to clarify the Fourteenth Amendment framer's ONLY singular U.S. citizenship original intent (but NOT the intent of eligibility to be POTUS) for BOTH words "born" and "naturalized."

Of course, since "born" in "natural born Citizen" in Article II Section 1 clause 5 had John Jay's original genesis original intent meaning of ONLY singular U.S. citizenship by birth on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen married paents, a Fourteenth Amendmend child born on U.S. soil with ONLY one U.S. citizen parent was, in 1868, a "citizen" but NOT a 1787 "natural born Citizen."

What does that mean?

That means that, in the Fourteenth Amendment Section 1 sentence 1, a "born or naturalized...citizen" is a "citizen" who is not "...eligible to the Office of President," while an Article II Section 1 clause 5 "natural born Citizen" is eligible.

If the framers had intended to include the Article II "natural born Citizen" in the Fourteenth Amendment they would have written the first sentence differently. Since the framers did not explicitly identify the "born" citizen, born, of course on U.S. soil, as having two U.S. citizen parents, the future children of "born or naturalized" citizens would, by birth, be an Article II "natural born Citizen" and "...eligible to the Office of President," but future children born on U.S. soil to, NOT zero U.S. citizen parents, but, in 1868, ONLY one U.S. citizen parent, would be a U.S. "citizen" and NOT eligible.

Question
Did "born or naturalized" in 1868 mean ONLY singular U.S. citizenship OR dual U.S./foreign citizenship for the Negroes while they were still slaves BEFORE Amendments 13 and 14, AND BEFORE 1898 and the Wong Kim Ark decision?

Answer
Before? Definitely no no—no to "OR dual" and no to "BEFORE 1898."

Question
Did "born or naturalized" in 1868 mean ONLY singular U.S citizenship OR ONLY dual U.S./foreign citizenship in 1868 for the free Negroes AFTER slavery was abolished in 1865 and they were free and new citizens of ONLY one nation?

Answer
After 1865 and 1868? Definitely ONLY singular U.S. citizenship, of course, since the free Negroes of 1865 were new "citizens" in 1868 of ONLY one nation.

Dual U.S./foreign citizenship would have been incoherent in 1868, and it was incoherent thirty years later when the 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court lost coherent connection with the original genesis original intent of the original framers of the Fourteenth Amendment Section 1 sentence 1 and the word "born" in the first three words of the first sentence, "All persons born or naturalized...subject to the [U.S.] jurisdiction...are citizens...."

So, the word "born" in 1868 meant ONLY singular U.S. citizenship for 30 years for the Negroes freed from slavery by Amendment 13, the 1865 abolition of slavery amendment; which was followed by Amendment 14, the 1868 "born...citizens" amendment; followed by Amendment 15, the 1870 racial suffrage amendment for Negro men, since the Caucasian men already had the right to vote.

Hmmm, I wonder.

Do ANY "natural born Citizen" new meaning neo-birthers have deep thoughts about Republican President Abraham Lincoln and his 1865 Amendment 13 success in freeing the Negro slaves as free "citizens" of ONLY one nation with ONLY singular U.S. citizenship three years later in 1868 with Amendment 14?

"Natural born Citizen" original meaning original intent birthers are waiting for a common sense reply—if not here on your blog Mario, well, somewhere, anywhere will do—from "natural born Citizen" new meaning neo-birther Kevin Davidson/Dr. Conspiracy/Masters Mathematician and "proper subset" expert, and/or from "natural born Citizen new meaning neo-birther Kevin/Ph.D Mathematician and recalcitrant "proper subset" expert.

Art
U.S. Constitution: The Original Birther Document of the Union
( http://originalbirtherdocument.blogspot.com/2014/12/time-to-change-conversation.html )


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